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Keri Pearlson
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Aug 25, 2008 5:31 PM

Question about the HP Mini-Note...

I'm so excited to receive this device... I love the form-factor... It's so portable. But I have a question that I hope someone can answer for me... I want to be able to do my "office work" on this device when traveling. While I understand (and believe in) the philosophy of 2.0 to use the web for apps, I need to have some apps on my machine when it's not connected to the web. Specifically, I want to do these things:

 

  • Edit/Compose/View Word documents (from my desktop computer)
  • Edit/Compose/View/Project Powerpoint slide shows (I do a lot of presentations)
  • Download then Read my email (so I can see it when I'm on the airplane or in a non-Wi-Fi area)
  • View PDF files
  • Surf the web

 

Can I do these things on the device right out of the box? I'm wondering what open source apps I should download to do this (StarOffice? Others?). I'd like to get it ready to travel by the weekend. Any suggestions?

Tags: laptop, mini_note, hp_2133, device, staroffice
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1. Aug 25, 2008 5:31 PM in response to: Keri Pearlson
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Keri,

 

I believe that OpenOffice comes pre-installed on the device.

 

Also, browsing the web while being offline might not so much fun...

 

Best regards

-Ismael

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2. Aug 25, 2008 8:31 PM in response to: Ismael Chang Ghalimi
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Ismael,

 

You are too funny!  Browsing the web while not connected... sounds like a great business opportunity for an enterprising, and innovative entrepreneur (know anyone?). Thanks for the heads up on the preloaded software. I was looking at the specs and tech info on the websites for the device at Amazon.com and HP, but couldn't find indication of what was preloaded (I'm sure I just missed it). What other Linux software should we consider loading (or is preloaded that we should be sure not to  miss)?  I'm an 'old' Unix programmer, but don't know much about the Linux world today. Any other advice/pointers?

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3. Aug 25, 2008 8:35 PM in response to: Keri Pearlson
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Keri,

 

You're asking the wrong guy. I'm 100% in the cloud today. And when I find myself in the choulds and am not the pilot in command, I like to take a nap or watch a movie. As time goes by, we will learn to cherish these very rare moments when we are offline. I have no interest in trying to reduce them to nothing any faster than they're going to disappear on their own.

 

-Ismael

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4. Aug 25, 2008 9:11 PM in response to: Ismael Chang Ghalimi
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Ismael,

 

Yes, I had a feeling you'd say that... I agree that the moments of down time are few and far between, however I prefer to choose when to have those times. I want to have technology that I can use when I'm ready, rather than just when it's connected. I've found that all too often the network is not available when/where I'm ready. The cloud is just not that reliable yet (although we can see the vision and the tunnel).   In all fairness, I really only want to carry one device with me and I'm hoping it will be the HP Mini-Note (well, actually 2 devices...my cell phone and my Mini-Note). Otherwise I have to carry a bigger tote to hold it all.

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5. Aug 25, 2008 9:12 PM in response to: Keri Pearlson
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Keri,

 

An iPhone 3G is all I need most of the time.

 

Then a Mini-Note if I'm on a tight budget, or a Sony Vaio TZ if I'm flush.

 

Cheers!

 

-Ismael

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6. Aug 25, 2008 9:25 PM in response to: Ismael Chang Ghalimi
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

My mobile doesn't work in the US (well not for data anyway), so I'll be schlepping a big clunky Dell laptop around the conference

 

Unless of course...

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7. Sep 1, 2008 10:14 AM in response to: Ben Kepes
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

For those wondering about the oporating system that comes on the HP Mini-Note, you can see the package here. It ships with Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop, which has native apps on it.

 

Here is a link to what it has in it: Enterprise Desktop 10

 

 

There is much more there, but at least you will have these basic apps installed right out of the box.

 

See you all there.

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8. Sep 1, 2008 10:16 AM in response to: Alan Smith
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Folks,

 

I hate being a party pooper, but the point of selecting a mobile device that was running Linux was to see what could be done online vs. using client-side applications. The more applications you install and use on the device, the less we'll learn about Office 2.0, and whether it's working or not. Feel free to do whatever you want with the device after the conference, but during the event, please try to use online applications as much as possible.

 

Best regards

-Ismael

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9. Sep 1, 2008 10:32 AM in response to: Ismael Chang Ghalimi
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

That's a really good point Ismael. I totally agree with using hosted apps while we are at the conference.

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10. Sep 1, 2008 10:32 AM in response to: Alan Smith
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Thanks! Much appreciated.

 

-Ismael

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11. Sep 1, 2008 1:26 PM in response to: Keri Pearlson
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

I support the idea of hosted apps all over. Getting a tiny device to access them at a conference is simply excellent. It's just a wonderful feeling to leave my notebook at home — particularly when entering the US — while still having access to everything that's relevant. Only depending on web access...

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12. Sep 1, 2008 2:39 PM in response to: Keri Pearlson
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

The idea of a totally "in the cloud" conference is a great idea, and the HP 2133 is an excellent device to help with that. After a couple of days with the device I got a bit frustrated with the SUSE Linux install as it is very inflexible, especially being stuck with an old version of Firefox. Part of being able to operate in the cloud with Web 2.0 applications is a browser that works well with them including support for Flash, Quicktime, etc. Even the use of Adobe Air (albeit a part of the desktop) is becoming more important to enable the best of Web 2.0. Throw in Silverlight and you really need a modern browser. As a result I took a risk and replaced the installed OS with Ubuntu 8.04. While it's not for the feint of heart, I'm so glad I did. There are excellent step by steps available for doing it with "Minbuntu." Now I can run Firefox 3, watch Quicktime, etc. It simply makes the HP 2133 much more usable... and a viable Web 2.0 tool.

 

Looking forward to seeing everybody this week!

 

-Martin

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13. Sep 1, 2008 2:40 PM in response to: Martin Spriggs
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Martin,

 

If you're planning to attend the Unconference, would you be interested in organizing a Mini-Note upgrade workshop there?

 

Best regards

-Ismael

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14. Sep 1, 2008 4:13 PM in response to: Ismael Chang Ghalimi
Re: Question about the HP Mini-Note...

Would it be easier for the masses to just upgrade to the web tools we need on the SUSE platform? Doing fresh instals might be a bit time consuming.

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